> sorry, i want neither of these in my laptop. i want it to be lightweight, small, solid and durable body without moving parts or too many holes.
Thinkpad T480s weights about the same as the current MBP, has more useful ports (I find having hdmi, ethernet and older usb handy on a device I use in my work trips), good keyboard, replaceable hardware and whatnot. It is bigger, but Lenovo makes smaller Thinkpads too. Subjectively, I find it more robust than my MBP at work, but that's not the point.
The point is, the sacrifices Apple makes on their current Macbook Pros are simply design choices, not engineering tradeoffs.
i'm not defending macbooks here unconditionally. of course keyboard is worse than previous generation. i hope apple fixes it in the next. but otherwise, macbooks are hands down best hardware design of a laptop on the market. touchpad alone makes me not even consider any of the lenovo stuff. visual, tactile and functional design matter more to me than having 32g ram. not having more holes is preferable to me than having more holes. abandoning everything for 4 usbc ports is painful at first, but a great decision that will move the industry as a whole forward.
of course this is all subjective, use whatever works best for you.
Thinkpad T480s weights about the same as the current MBP, has more useful ports (I find having hdmi, ethernet and older usb handy on a device I use in my work trips), good keyboard, replaceable hardware and whatnot. It is bigger, but Lenovo makes smaller Thinkpads too. Subjectively, I find it more robust than my MBP at work, but that's not the point.
The point is, the sacrifices Apple makes on their current Macbook Pros are simply design choices, not engineering tradeoffs.