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> Uh....that's more the fault of a president

Who so far has been put into office twice by?

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Voters, but a minority of them.* Then kept in office by a minority (43%) of Republican Senate legislators.

* Yes, that is the correct term. In each election >50% chose "Not Trump".


Yes, largely the fault of a people's imperfect system that their ancestor's elected representatives largely built and they inherited.

There are only one people that have any chance of changing that system though.


By your figures, about 50% chose Trump, twice.

Enough to condemn the US forever in the eyes of the world. It’s no longer seen as a reliable ally or a desirable destination by the majority around the world.


Strictly speaking, that Presidential race was not enough, since Trump alone would have been far-more survivable. A mere repeat of 2016-2020 would have been shameful and humiliating, but not the same kind of diplomatic self-implosion.

What is enough involves the outcomes of other elections/candidates, where almost all the Republican party decided that this time around they were going to go into full-steam ahead with Trump's whims and crimes.


He has, as predicted, destroyed the very idea of America, and all those who voted for him and are collaborating with him deserve the consequences, particularly his followers who he reliably uses then betrays. I feel sorry for the people who didn’t vote for him though, the slide into fascism is beginning and many don’t recognise it yet.

> Yes, that is the correct term. In each election >50% chose "Not Trump".

Uhhh... Not voting at all doesn't count as "Not Trump". It counts as "I don't care," which implicitly means "whatever everyone else thinks".

This is such a dumb thing to try to play semantic games about. A majority of voters elected the clown, and the population of non-voters is complicit in that.


Your comment is supercilious and confidently-incorrect. The most-charitable interpretation is that you have been misinformed ever since the last election from some preliminary estimate of incomplete counts.

1. Of all ballots, only 49.7961% were for Trump. [0]

2. Of ballots where someone made a non-blank choice for President, 50.1976% were for candidates who were not-Trump.

So when I explicitly wrote about a "minority" of "voters", that really does mean an an actual mathematical minority of the people who actually voted, thankyouverymuchdamnit.

[0] https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/2024pres...


Wow, you're pretty obnoxious.

Guess you're right, though


You tried calling them out with a “gotcha” to make yourself look smart and then got told off, but they’re the obnoxious one?

> This is such a dumb thing to try to play semantic games about. [...] Wow, you're pretty obnoxious.

As the saying goes: "Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'."


Grifty ignoramuses...?



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